Doc. no. | N4101 |
Date: | 2014-07-01 |
Project: | Programming Language C++ |
Reply to: | Ville Voutilainen <[email protected]> |
Revised 2014-07-01 at 21:07:12 UTC
Reference ISO/IEC IS 14882:2003(E)
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Section: 4.13 [conv.rank] Status: Open Submitter: Jens Maurer Opened: 2012-09-12 Last modified: 2014-06-30
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Discussion:
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2012/n3387.html
Deemed post-C++14 material in Chicago 2013.
Discussed in Rapperswil 2014. EWG stated that in order to move forward with such a proposal, it would need to provide data about the compatibility/breakage issues, if any.
Wording available:
The paper contains the proposed wording.
Section: 18.6 [support.dynamic] Status: Open Submitter: Clark Nelson Opened: 2012-08-30 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2012/n3396.htm
Reviewed by EWG in Portland, author encouraged to revise.
Deemed post-C++14 material in Chicago 2013. Has an associated NB comment, FI 16, although the comment is rejected for C++14.
Wording available:
The paper contains the proposed wording that is to be revised.
Section: 16.3 [cpp.replace] Status: New Submitter: Jonathan de Boyne Pollard Opened: 2012-09-21 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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Discussion:
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2012/n3400.htmlWording available:
The paper contains the proposed wording.
Section: 14 [temp] Status: Open Submitter: Mike Spertus Opened: 2012-09-22 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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Discussion:
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2012/n3405.html
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2013/n3601.html
EWG review started, not completed yet. Likely needs a follow-up paper.
Bristol 2013: Encouraged to pursue further. Template parameter deduction for constructors has been split into EWG Issue 60.
Section: 17 [library] Status: New Submitter: Dietmar K�hl Opened: 2012-09-14 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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Discussion:
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2012/n3407.htmlHandled by the Numerics Study Group (SG6).
Section: 1.10 [intro.multithread] Status: New Submitter: Pablo Halpern Opened: 2012-09-24 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2012/n3409.pdfHandled by the Concurrency Study Group (SG1)
Section: 14.1 [temp.param] Status: Open Submitter: Jens Maurer Opened: 2012-09-19 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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Discussion:
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2012/n3413.html
Bristol 2013: Maurer expressed surprise at the paper being under discussion, and explained that he doesn't think it can be made to work under current linker environments, and further explained that user-defined equality operators cause confusion and surprises. Maurer said that he'd want Stroustrup to clarify which parts of the paper he would want.
Two-way Straw polls:
Rules for agument expressions:
F: 5 A: 0
Structs without operator==
F: 0 A: 0
Structs with operator==
F: 1 A: 3
The issue is not pushed at this time.
Deemed post-C++14 material in Chicago 2013, Stroustrup expressed interest in writing papers about the subject targeting C++17.
Wording available:
The paper contains the proposed wording.Section: 14.1 [temp.param] Status: New Submitter: Mike Spertus Opened: 2012-09-21 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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Discussion:
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2012/n3416.html
There is a closed (extension status) Core issue for this, see Core issue 1643.
Section: 1.10 [intro.multithread] Status: Open Submitter: Robert Geva Opened: 2012-09-21 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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Discussion:
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2012/n3419.pdfHandled by the Concurrency Study Group (SG1).
Section: 30 [thread] Status: Open Submitter: Artur Laksberg Opened: 2012-09-21 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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Discussion:
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2012/n3429.pdfHandled by the Concurrency Study Group (SG1).
Wording available:
The paper contains the proposed wording.
Section: 18.1 [support.general] Status: Open Submitter: Clark Nelson Opened: 2012-09-18 Last modified: 2014-06-30
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Discussion:
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2014/n4030.htm
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2013/n3745.htm
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2013/n3694.htm
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2012/n3435.htm
Reviewed by EWG in Portland 2012, proceeding in SG10, Feature Test.
Handled by SG10 to the first desired outcome in Chicago2013, no need for further EWG follow-up.
Discussed again in Rapperswil 2014.
Straw poll, has_cpp_attribute as a function-style macro:
SF 7, WF 9, N 4, WA 0, SA 0.
EWG's guidance was for the function-style macro.
Section: 20.9 [meta] Status: Open Submitter: Axel Naumann Opened: 2012-09-24 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2012/n3437.pdfNot reviewed by EWG yet, to be handled by the Reflection Study Group (SG7).
In Chicago 2013, EWG decided to let SG7 handle this.
Section: 18.8 [support.exception] Status: New Submitter: Aurelian Melinte Opened: 2012-09-20 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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Discussion:
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2012/n3441.htmlSection: 8.3.5 [dcl.fct] Status: New Submitter: Lawrence Crowl Opened: 2012-09-23 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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Discussion:
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2012/n3445.html
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2013/n3538.html
Deemed post-C++14 material in Chicago 2013.
Section: 5.2.7 [expr.dynamic.cast] Status: New Submitter: Bjarne Stroustrup Opened: 2012-09-23 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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Discussion:
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2012/n3449.pdf
Deemed post-C++14 material in Chicago 2013.
Section: 20.9 [meta] Status: Open Submitter: Herb Sutter Opened: 2012-01-10 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2012/n3329.pdfReviewed by EWG in Portland 2012, deemed to be handled by the Concepts Study Group (SG8).
Deemed post-C++14 material in Chicago 2013. SG8 isn't including it in their scope for the near future. Voutilainen is planning to write a simplified proposal for C++17.
Section: 14.5.3 [temp.variadic] Status: Open Submitter: Dave Abrahams Opened: 2012-10-16 Last modified: 2014-06-30
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Discussion:
There are lots of very basic manipulations that are either really hard or impossible to do with argument packs unless you use something that causes a big recursive template instantiation, which is expensive at compile-time and can cause bad error messages. I want to be able to index argument packs with integral constant expressions, "take" or "drop" the first N elements of the pack, etc.
In Bristol 2013: N3493 may solve parts of the problem. The submitter is encouraged to write a paper, and practical examples are desirable.
N3761 http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2013/n3761.html seems related.
Discussed in Rapperswil 2014. Vandevoorde expressed desire to write a paper.
Section: 17.6.3.4 [hash.requirements] Status: Open Submitter: Matt Austern Opened: 2012-10-23 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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Discussion:
We have a hash function for built-in types and for some standard library types, but we don't have automatically generated hash<> specializations for user-defined types like
struct my_type { int x; std::string y; vector<int> z; };Defining a good and efficient hash function for composite types takes a fair amount of work. One consequence is that there are a lot of user-defined types with bad hash functions floating around. One possibility is automatically generating hash<> specializations, but that's tricky. A simpler possibility is providing tools that make it easier for users to do the right thing.
Bristol 2013: Austern explained that he didn't envision syntax to automate the generation of hash operations but thought that this could potentially be solved by a library. Stroustrup and Austern thought that reflection would be another way to solve this. Van Winkel thought that for the generation of such things, it's perhaps desirable that they aren't generated by default but can be generated on demand when a user-defined type requests such generation. The guidance of the EWG is to propose a solution that handles equality operators and other such things in a more general manner.
EWG expressed long-term interest in this idea in Chicago 2013 for post-C++14. Papers welcome.
Section: 3.4 [basic.lookup] Status: Open Submitter: Jeffrey Yasskin Opened: 2012-10-24 Last modified: 2014-06-30
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Discussion:
Sometimes we want to define a variable that's unused except for its constructor and destructor. lock_guard<mutex> and ScopeGuard are decent examples of this. In C++11, we have to manually name the variable something unique. Sometimes we use _some_name_##__LINE__ (suitably wrapped so the concatenation happens after expanding __LINE__) to try to generate unique names automatically, and gcc/clang have an extension _some_name_##__COUNTER__
http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.7.2/cpp/Common-Predefined-Macros.html
to allow multiple such variables on the same line. These are pretty verbose and not convenient for casual use. Haskell allows _ (underscore) to stand in for a variable that's not going to be used. Googlemock defines testing::_ to mean "don't care" as an argument, which is similar but not identical.Bristol 2013: Stroustrup wondered how unique the name needs to be, and wondered whether parallel builds would have problems ensuring the uniqueness. Naumann pointed out that having an unnamed variable is useful also for cases where you don't want the variable's address to be taken etc. Stroustrup and Van Winkel said this is not tiny, and a proper paper is necessary for this issue.
Chicago 2013: Deemed not as C++14 material, Yasskin or someone else invited to write a paper, straw polls in favor of the feature. Things to consider in the paper: Consider double underscore "__". Can it be used only in local scope? For class members? For globals?
Discussed in Rapperswil 2014. Still encouraging a paper, Dennett to contact Yasskin about it.
Section: 14.7.3 [temp.expl.spec] Status: Open Submitter: Faisal Vali Opened: 2012-10-27 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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Discussion:
I had submitted a DR (727) about this in October 2008 - and it was classified as an extension - I wonder if Spertus' DR (1077) that was also classified as an extension should be considered along with this one. 14.7.3 [temp.expl.spec] paragraph 2 requires that explicit specializations of member templates be declared in namespace scope, not in the class definition. This restriction does not apply to partial specializations of member templates; that is,
struct A { template<class T> struct B; template <class T> struct B<T*> { }; // well-formed template <> struct B<int*> { }; // ill-formed };There does not seem to be a good reason for this inconsistency.
Bristol 2013: Defer to Core, with the guidance to reopen the DR mentioned and remove the restriction.
Before this can go over to Core, it needs wording. It's likely that it needs a paper. Vali should create either the wording or the paper.
Section: 6.5.4 [stmt.ranged] Status: Open Submitter: Gabriel Dos Reis Opened: 2013-01-12 Last modified: 2014-06-30
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The new-style 'for' syntax allows us to dispense with administrative iterator declarations when iterating over a single seuqence. The burden and noise remain, however, when iterating over two or more sequences simultaenously. We should extend the syntax to allow that. E.g. one should be able to write:
for (auto& x : v; auto& y : w) a = combine(v, w, a);instead of the noisier
auto p1 = v.begin(); auto q1 = v.end(); auto p2 = w.begin(); auto q2 = w.end(); while (p1 < q1 and p2 < q2) { a = combine(*p1, *p2, a); ++p1; ++p2; }
Bristol 2013: Submitter is encouraged to write a paper.
EWG expressed reiterated interest in Chicago 2013 for this idea, deeming it post-C++14 material.
Discussed in Rapperswil 2014. The author is still encouraged to submit a paper. Vandevoorde to contact Dos Reis and Lavavej about it.
Section: 14.7.3 [temp.expl.spec] Status: Open Submitter: Mike Spertus Opened: 2013-03-06 Last modified: 2014-06-30
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Discussion:
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2014/n3867.html
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2013/n3730.html
There is a closed (extension status) Core issue for this, see Core issue 1077.
This is a proposal to allow specializing templates from within a different namespace. The motivation is that when we declare a new class, it is natural to want to provide associated template specializations. For example, it is really painful that whenever I declare a class, I need to leave my namespace and enter namespace std just to specialize std::less as shown below
namespace A { namespace B { class C {...}; } } namespace std { template <> struct less<C> : binary_function <C, C, bool> { bool operator() (const C & x, const C & y) const {...} }; } namespace A { namespace B { ... // Continue working in A::B } }Instead, I should be able to specialize std::less without having to break out of my namespace:
namespace A { namespace B { class C {...}; template <> struct ::std::less<C> : binary_function <C, C, bool> { bool operator() (const C & x, const C & y) const {...} }; ... // Continue working in A::B } }
Bristol 2013: Stroustrup expressed concern about unqualified name lookup in the specializations, and Voutilainen thought that that just might be the reason why the current rules don't allow it. Gottschling voiced concern about the implementation impact, and Voutilainen suggested asking for a quick review of the overall idea from Spicer. Austern thought that this could be palatable if it's expressed as a set of rewrite rules. Spertus asked about an alternative which is to be able to open another namespace without having to exit the current namespace. This alternative didn't gain success. Spertus to write a paper.
In Chicago 2013, EWG guidance was to work based on the current proposal N3730 without the facility of specializing a namespace-scoped template from inside a class.
Discussed in Rapperswil 2014.
Gregor and Vandevoorde expressed concern about changing name lookup, and thought that the problem space needs the help of Core experts. Dos Reis expressed concern about expanding the need to do more tentative parsing to resolve ambiguities. Stroustrup requested further study in order to explore the possibilities to find a solution that doesn't cause issues with lookup, and Spertus agreed that further exploration seems wise.
EWG encouraged working further on the problem, looking at alternative solutions.
Section: 2.2 [lex.phases] Status: New Submitter: Beman Dawes Opened: 2012-11-02 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2012/n3463.htmlSection: 18.1 [support.general] Status: New Submitter: Mike Spertus Opened: 2012-11-03 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2012/n3466.htmlSection: 3.4.2 [basic.lookup.argdep] Status: New Submitter: Dave Abrahams Opened: 2012-10-31 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2012/n3490.htmlSection: 7.1.3 [dcl.typedef] Status: Open Submitter: Walter Brown Opened: 2013-01-11 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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Discussion:
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2013/n3741.pdf
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2013/n3515.pdf
Reviewed in Chicago 2013, author encouraged to pursue the idea further with revised papers.
Section: 5.19 [expr.const] Status: Open Submitter: Scott Schurr Opened: 2013-03-13 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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Discussion:
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2013/n3583.pdf
Bristol 2013: We won't move forward with this at this time, but we might want to see a followup paper focusing on the trait.
Section: 6.5 [stmt.iter] Status: Open Submitter: Alan Talbot Opened: 2013-03-17 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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Discussion:
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2013/n3587.pdf
Bristol 2013: Van Winkel pointed out that this allows jumping out of nested loops. Naumann expressed doubt over whether the problem is so big that we need such a big extension to solve it. Van Winkel and Spertus thought that this would likely be a popular feature. Voutilainen thought that it would be beneficial to revisit a lambda solution. Talbot expressed doubt whether that's a suitable solution, syntax-wise and performance-wise. Austern thought that this seems to be in flux, and thought we aren't necessarily ready to choose between the various options. Gottschling thought Vandevoorde's option is nice, since it's still structured. Spertus said he likes the idea of having a control structure be an expression. Austern recommended looking closely at Clause 5 in the follow-up paper.
The author is encouraged to write a follow-up paper.
Section: 3.4.2 [basic.lookup.argdep] Status: Open Submitter: Peter Gottschling Opened: 2013-03-15 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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Discussion:
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2013/n3595.pdf
Bristol 2013: Looked at briefly, the EWG thinks this should be considered alongside other ADL proposals.
Section: 3.4.2 [basic.lookup.argdep] Status: New Submitter: Peter Gottschling Opened: 2013-03-15 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2013/n3596.pdf
Section: 14.8.2 [temp.deduct] Status: Open Submitter: Mike Spertus Opened: 2013-03-14 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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This issue is split from EWG Issue 9.
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2013/n3602.html
Bristol 2013: Reviewed and accepted by EWG, needs redrafting before ready for core.
Core pointed out problems in Bristol. Gregor summarized in Chicago 2013 that The primary template might not be the right place to pick constructors from. (Partial) specializations might have completely different constructors. Stroustrup thought that there's only two ways: all specializations have to be in scope, and you look at all of those, or look only at the primary and give an error if that doesn't work. Spertus is encouraged to write a follow-up paper.
Section: 15.5 [except.special] Status: Open Submitter: Herb Sutter Opened: 2013-03-11 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2013/n3614.pdf
Bristol 2013: Voutilainen pointed out that there are previous proposals on similar facilities (http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2009/n2952.html), and that there's existing practice that is different from this proposal (existing practice returns an int, not a bool). Stroustrup thought that he would need convincing examples about the int, and thought that the facility in general needs better motivation. Voutilainen said that it would be best to create a revisions/synthesis paper that covers the existing practice and the previous proposals and improves the motivational examples.
Author is encouraged to revise.
In Chicago 2013, Voutilainen said he plans to work on this issue and create a follow-up paper for C++17.
Section: 20.8.2 [func.require] Status: New Submitter: Philipp Juschka Opened: 2013-03-14 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2013/n3617.htm
Section: 2.14.8 [lex.ext] Status: Open Submitter: Richard Smith Opened: 2013-03-13 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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Discussion:
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2013/n3599.html
Bristol 2013:
Straw Poll: Adopt N3599, send to core: SF:2 WF:1 N:6 WA:4 SA:1
No consensus for moving forward as is.
Straw Poll: Revise with additional machinery for compile time string processing
SF: 10 WF: 2 N: 0 WA: 0 SA: 0
Encouragement for Smith and Vandevoorde to revise.
Section: 6.4.2 [stmt.switch] Status: Open Submitter: Zhihao Yuan Opened: 2013-02-02 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2013/n3627.html
Reviewed in Chicago 2013, author is encouraged to pursue this further.
Section: 8.3.1 [dcl.ptr] Status: Open Submitter: Hal Finker, Hubert Tong, M. Wong, R. Silvera, R. Mak, C. Cambly, et al. Opened: 2013-04-29 Last modified: 2014-06-30
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Discussion:
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2014/n3988.pdf
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2013/n3635.pdf
See also issue 26.
According to Wong, this paper was reviewed on the last day in EWG in Chicago 2013, although with no recorder. The summary was that many people liked the 1st solution (AliasGrouping), and authors are encouraged to develop it further.
Discussed further in Rapperswil 2014.
Straw poll: Encourage continued work?
SF 11, WF 9, N 3, WA 0, SA 0.
Carruth enumerated the following questions, which were encouraged to be answered: should it be ill-formed if this expression has side-effects? Is it an evaluated expression? That changes whether it odr-uses things, whether we have to emit code? Can it be allowed to instantiate templates, and is so what is the point of instantiation?
Section: 13.5.6 [over.ref] Status: Open Submitter: Pascal Costanza Opened: 2013-08-23 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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Discussion:
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2013/n3723.html
Discussed in Chicago 2013: Return object that overloads -> to point to subobject. Wrapper that points into itself. Boost "iterator facade" that uses curiously recursive template pattern that does this. It's a pain. What other motivating use cases demonstrate this is a general problem? Has to be a relation to operator. that we've tried to invent a few times. Extra integer looks odd, more so than hack for operator++. We're not yet convinced problem is general enough to require a language change. Not opposed to change, but feels like it's tail end of bigger problem. Didn't quite like the syntax.
Section: 7.6.1 [dcl.attr.grammar] Status: Open Submitter: Walter Brown Opened: 2013-08-30 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2013/n3744.pdf
Discussed in Chicago 2013:
Poll 4: Conservative approach. SF 3 - 2 - 5 - 0 - 0 SA
Poll 5: Aggressive approach: SF 6 - 1 - 3 - 0 - 0 SA
Poll 6: Support both, with different attributes. SF 4 - 2 - 3 - 1 - 0 SA
Vandevoorde expressed that he likes the idea of having two attributes, one for memoizing and the other for non-side-effecting. Stroustrup and Spertus expressed concern about multiple attributes being confusing. Stroustrup gave his guidance to have a two-part proposal with both the "aggressive" mode and the more conservative mode. Vandevoorde promised his assistance for writing the wording.
Section: 7.1.6.4 [dcl.spec.auto] Status: Open Submitter: Peter Gottschling Opened: 2013-08-30 Last modified: 2014-06-30
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Discussion:
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2014/n4035.pdf
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2013/n3748.pdf
Reviewed in Chicago 2013. Stroustrup recommended looking into Vandevoorde's solution of doing a type manipulation instead of running code in a conversion since there doesn't seem to a palatable reason for running code, and thought that the solution should be simplified, and it should be much better than what you can hack today. The author is encouraged to pursue the idea further.
Discussed in Rapperswil 2014.
Straw poll: On the proposal as is:
SF 0 - WF 1 - N 8 - WA 13 - SA 2
Stroustrup said his reading of this is that we agree there's a problem, but we don't think that this is the solution.
Straw poll: See a new proposal based on this one, but with "using auto" only applying to variable and data member initializers:
SF 2 - WF 8 - N 8 - WA 1 - SA 3
Carruth suggested writing a new paper with more rationale/explanation of the tradeoffs, decisions, etc., and Dennett agreed.
Section: 3.9 [basic.types] Status: New Submitter: Lawrence Crowl, Bjarne Stroustrup Opened: 2013-10-10 Last modified: 2014-06-30
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Discussion:
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2013/n3810.pdf
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2013/n3820.html
See also issue 125.
Section: 1 [intro] Status: New Submitter: Ville Voutilainen Opened: 2014-01-16 Last modified: 2014-07-02
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Discussion:
203 Type of address-of-member expression -> new EWG issue, 89. The EWG issue is NAD, too late for a breaking change, instruct CWG to also close as NAD.
476 Determining the buffer size for placement new -> new EWG issue, 90. The EWG issue is NAD -> clarification from CWG requested.
622 Relational comparisons of arbitrary pointers -> new EWG issue, 91. The issue is NAD -> instruct CWG to do the same.
687 template keyword with unqualified-ids -> new EWG issue, 92. -> instruct CWG to reopen, Vandevoorde working on wording.
728 Restrictions on local classes -> new EWG issue, 93.
794 Base-derived conversion in member type of pointer-to-member conversion -> Open an EWG issue for 794, 94. Snyder reports he is interested in authoring a paper.
822 Additional contexts for template aliases -> new EWG issue, 95. -> issue is NAD, suggest CWG also closes as NAD.
914 Value-initialization of array types -> Open an EWG issue for 914 and 1300, 96. Instruct Core to close either (probably 914)as a DUP. Instruct Core not to think EWG has looked at 1300, because EWG hasn't. Include 1326 in the EWG issue, leave that open in Core as well.
1008 Querying the alignment of an object -> new EWG issue, 98.
1048 auto deduction and lambda return type deduction. -> Instruct Core to reopen 1048 and clarify the issue, since there is implementation divergence. Ask Merrill whether he has implemented what he thought was right. clang seems to be consistent. decltype(f()) is const A in gcc, decltype(b()) is A in gcc. in clang, both are const A.
1077 Explicit specializations in non-containing namespaces -> EWG has an issue for 1077. Link to the core issue from that (done), and vice versa if CWG chair so chooses.
1259 Deleting a POD via a pointer to base -> new EWG issue, 99. -> issue is NAD, suggest CWG closes as NAD.
1272 Implicit definition of static data member of const literal type -> new EWG issue, 100. -> issue is NAD, suggest CWG closes as NAD.
1300 T() for array types -> Open an EWG issue for 914 and 1300, 96. Instruct Core to close either (probably 914)as a DUP. Instruct Core not to think EWG has looked at 1300, because EWG hasn't. Include 1326 in the EWG issue, leave that open in Core as well.
1326 Deducing an array bound from an initializer-list -> see above
1331 const mismatch with defaulted copy constructor -> Open an EWG issue for 1331, 101. Needs analysis and implementation vendor feedback.
1393 Pack expansions in using-declarations -> Open an EWG issue for 1393, 102. There are other related extension almost-proposals that should be considered in addition to the case in point.
1426 Allowing additional parameter types in defaulted functions -> new EWG issue, 103.
1433 trailing-return-type and point of declaration -> new EWG issue, 104.
1451 Objects with no linkage in non-type template arguments -> new EWG issue, 105.
1463 extern "C" alias templates -> new EWG issue, 106, see above about 13.
1469 Omitted bound in array new-expression
1555 Language linkage and function type compatibility -> Instruct SG12 to handle 1555. (done, SG12 chair has been notified)
1561 Aggregates with empty base classes -> new EWG issue, 108.
1564 Template argument deduction from an initializer list -> new EWG issue, 109. -> issue is NAD, suggest CWG closes as NAD as well.
1577 Unnecessary restrictions on partial specializations -> new EWG issue, 110. -> issue is NAD, suggest CWG closes as NAD as well.
1582 Template default arguments and deduction failure -> new EWG issue, 111. -> EWG wishes to send this back to CWG for drafting Spicer's suggestion.
1586 Naming a destructor via decltype -> new EWG issue, 112. -> issue is NAD, suggest CWG closes as NAD as well.
1643 Default arguments for template parameter packs -> Link 1643 to EWG issue 15 (done) and vice versa.
1657 Attributes for namespaces and enumerators -> Open an EWG issue for 1657, 113. Remember to consider inline namespaces and anon namespaces. Rationale for both namespaces and enumerators is [[deprecated]].
1754 Declaration of partial specialization of static data member template -> new EWG issue, 132 (NAD, lack of motivation for the change)
1798 exception-specifications of template arguments -> new EWG issue, 133 (NAD, insufficient motivation for a change, no desire to have exception specifications in the type system, paper requested if there's desire to reopen)
1826 const floating-point in constant expressions
Straw poll, Rapperswil 2014:
To make it consistent by allowing "const float f = 2.0" to allow use of f in constexpr evaluation:
SF 4 - WF 12 - N 1 - WA 0 - SA 0
-> instruct CWG to reopen and resolve so that const floating point is allowed in constant expressions.
1833 friend declarations naming implicitly-declared member functions
Straw poll, Rapperswil 2014, NAD?
SF 3 - WF 7 - N 7 - WA 2 - SA 0
-> instruct CWG to close as NAD, EWG didn't find sufficient motivation for the extension suggested.
1790 Ellipsis following function parameter pack
1864 List-initialization of array objects
1871 Non-identifier characters in ud-suffix
1876 Preventing explicit specialization
1912 exception-specification of defaulted function
1914 Duplicate standard attributes
1915 Potentially-invoked destructors in non-throwing constructors
1931 Default-constructible and copy-assignable closure types
1934 Relaxing exception-specification compatibility requirements (no link yet)
Section: 7 [dcl.dcl] Status: Ready Submitter: Walter E. Brown Opened: 2014-01-01 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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Discussion:
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2014/n3846.pdf
Issaquah 2014: EWG discussed the paper, and found preference towards option 3, which allows implementations to use useful messages, but doesn't force them to document what they provide, so it was seen superior to the other alternatives. The proposal is expected to go forward to Core, and it has wording already.
Wording available:
The paper contains the proposed wording.Section: 6.5 [stmt.iter] Status: Ready Submitter: Stephan T. Lavavej Opened: 2014-01-17 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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Discussion:
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2014/n3994.htm
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2014/n3853.htm
Issaquah 2014: EWG discussed the paper, and found consensus to move the proposal forward to Core, and it has wording already.
Wording available:
The paper contains the proposed wording.Section: 1.10 [intro.multithread] Status: Open Submitter: M. Wong, V. Luchangco, J. Maurer, M. Moir, et al. Opened: 2014-01-20 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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Discussion:
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2014/n3919.pdf
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2014/n3859.pdf
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2013/n3718.pdf
Issaquah 2014: EWG discussed the paper, and found consensus to move the proposal forward to a Technical Specification.
Section: 9.3 [class.mfct] Status: New Submitter: Matthew Fioravante Opened: 2013-12-08 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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Discussion:
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2014/n3863.html
Section: 9.2 [class.mem] Status: Open Submitter: J. D. Garcia, X. Li Opened: 2014-01-16 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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Discussion:
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2014/n3875.pdf
Issaquah 2014: EWG discussed the paper, and the author was present and received feedback to do further work on the paper.
Section: 1 [intro] Status: Open Submitter: Michael Price Opened: 2014-01-16 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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Discussion:
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2014/n3880.html
Issaquah 2014: The paper was presented to EWG, and the author was encouraged to continue working on the idea and to come up with concrete proposals for EWG to vote on.
Section: 13.5 [over.oper] Status: Open Submitter: Gabriel Dos Reis Opened: 2014-02-14 Last modified: 2014-07-02
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Discussion:
In c++std-core-14770, Dos Reis suggests that operator[] and operator() should both be allowed to be static. In addition to that, he suggests that both should allow multiple parameters. It's well known that there's a possibility that this breaks existing code (foo[1,2] is valid, the thing in brackets is a comma-expression) but there are possibilities to fix such cases (by requiring parens if a comma-expression is desired). EWG should discuss whether such unification is to be strived for.
Discussed in Rapperswil 2014. EWG points out that there are more issues to consider here, in terms of other operators, motivations, connections with captureless lambdas, who knows what else, so an analysis paper is requested.
Section: 5.1.1 [expr.prim.general] Status: Open Submitter: Mihai Rusu Opened: 2008-02-27 Last modified: 2014-07-02
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Discussion:
See Core issue 687.
Discussed in Rapperswil 2014. EWG thinks the use of a template keyword in such cases should be allowed. Vandevoorde to write the wording for CWG review.
Section: 14 [temp] Status: New Submitter: Faisal Vali Opened: 2008-10-05 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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Discussion:
See Core issue 728.
Section: 4.11 [conv.mem] Status: New Submitter: CH, Detlef Vollman Opened: 2009-03-03 Last modified: 2014-07-02
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Discussion:
See Core issue 794. Jeff Snyder reports he is interested in authoring a paper.
Section: 5.2.3 [expr.type.conv] Status: Open Submitter: Gabriel Dos Reis Opened: 2009-06-10 Last modified: 2014-06-30
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Discussion:
See Core issue 914, Core issue 1300 and Core issue 1326.
Discussed in Rapperswil 2014. Dos Reis and Krügler encouraged to write a paper.
Section: 5.3.6 [expr.alignof] Status: Open Submitter: Steve Clamage Opened: 2009-11-27 Last modified: 2014-06-30
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Discussion:
See Core issue 1008.
Discussed in Rapperswil 2014. Vandevoorde to write a paper.
Section: 12.8 [class.copy] Status: Open Submitter: Daniel Krügler Opened: 2011-03-18 Last modified: 2014-06-30
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Discussion:
See Core issue 1331.
Needs analysis and implementation vendor feedback.
Discussed in Rapperswil 2014. Krügler encouraged to write a paper, including motivating examples.
Section: 14.5.3 [temp.variadic] Status: Open Submitter: Daniel Krügler Opened: 2011-09-10 Last modified: 2014-06-30
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Discussion:
See Core issue 1393.
There are other related extension almost-proposals that should be considered in addition to the case in point.
Vandevoorde to write a paper and bring it back to EWG. The guidance is to allow multiple names in using-declarations, and also allowing a pack.
Section: 14 [temp] Status: Open Submitter: Daveed Vandevoorde Opened: 2011-08-19 Last modified: 2014-06-30
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Discussion:
See Core issue 1463 and Core issue 13.
Discussed in Rapperswil 2014. Vandevoorde to write a paper.
Section: 8.5.1 [dcl.init.aggr] Status: Open Submitter: Gabriel Dos Reis Opened: 2012-09-29 Last modified: 2014-07-02
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Discussion:
See Core issue 1561.
Discussed in Rapperswil 2014. Daryle Walker has an unpublished paper aiming to solve this here. EWG suggests that Dos Reis works with Walker to get the paper on EWG's plate.
Section: 14.8.2 [temp.deduct] Status: Ready Submitter: John Spicer Opened: 2012-10-31 Last modified: 2014-06-30
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Discussion:
See Core issue 1582.
Discussed in Rapperswil 2014. EWG wishes CWG to handle this, and to draft to implement Spicer's suggestion.
Section: 7.3.1 [namespace.def] Status: Open Submitter: Richard Smith Opened: 2013-08-26 Last modified: 2014-06-30
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Discussion:
See Core issue 1657.
Issaquah 2014: EWG wants to point out that it's important to remember to consider inline namespaces and anonymous namespaces, and that the rationale for both namespaces and enumerators is [[deprecated]].
Discussed in Rapperswil 2014. Smith is encouraged to write a proposal for EWG review, EWG expects to send it towards CWG without much ado.
Section: 6.6.3 [stmt.return] Status: Open Submitter: Herb Sutter Opened: 2014-04-09 Last modified: 2014-06-30
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Discussion:
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2014/n4029.pdf
Portland 2012:
Straw polls:
return as in the proposal: SF: 3 F: 2 N: 2 A: 4 SA: 5
arguments as in the proposal: SF: 2 F: 2 N: 1 A: 4 SA: 7
= {} vs. {} as in the proposal: SF: 2 F: 0 N: 4 A: 4 SA: 5
The author interprets these as dead, and does not plan to pursue this further.
Sutter reopened the issue in [c++std-ext-14770], Lavavej and Voutilainen reiterated reasons why the proposal was originally rejected. Sutter has indicated that he wishes to create a revised paper focusing on the return part, this issue is for him to reference in the paper.
Hinnant pointed to his response writeup in [c++std-ext-14883], and it was noted that [c++std-lib-34985] is also related, and mentions a paper by Krügler that would solve some of the library issues without introducing the problems Hinnant writes about.
Dimov presented a different incarnation of some of these problems in [c++std-lib-36408] "map<K,V>::emplace and explicit V constructors", and Krügler pointed out his paper solves that issue as well.
The Library issue related to Dimov's issue report is LWG 2397
Discussed in Rapperswil 2014.
Vandevoorde pointed out that he doesn't like returning an integer value and having that automatically convert to a vector. Vandevoorde said that the same arguments apply as with Josuttis's paper, because there's a difference between conversions and initializations, and that there are differences with auto. Sutter and Stroustrup suggested that the function author should know the return type of their function, so the argument that the return type isn't known doesn't hold water.
Voutilainen pointed out that there is a difference between initializations of local variables and returns, since the former allows deciding whether conversions are allowed, whereas this proposal would remove the ability to make that decision for returns.
Dennett thought that the diagnostic is not problematic because the worst kind of diagnostic is a missing diagnostic, especially ones that change a compiler error to a runtime error. Dennett asked what happens if a function vector f() {return {42};} has new semantics, and Vandevoorde warned that it seems like this would be a breaking change.
Voutilainen emphasized that this will turn compile-time errors into run-time errors, and warned about doing that lightly. Vandevoorde thought that this proposal makes code easier to write but not easier to read. Stroustrup disagreed with that point.
Voutilainen emphasized that in his opinion ownership transfer needs to stand out. Bos asked whether a compromise like return auto(2); would work. Dennett reported he has a wrap_unique() in internal use that solves the problem of having to repeat the type. Vandevoorde explained the difference between returning a value and returning a value constructed (possibly via conversion) from another value. Naumann pointed out the problems in refactoring code that returns a value but is changed to return eg. a vector, the status quo currently diagnoses those, but with this proposal, that wouldn't be the case.
Straw polls:
Proposal:
SF: 2 F: 5 N: 4 A: 3 SA: 5
Like the proposal, but just when braces are used:
SF: 3 F: 8 N: 3 A: 0 SA: 4
Sutter continued revising the proposal aiming for a solution that kicks in when braces are used. The current expectation is that the discussion will continue in Urbana, and there will be more papers related to this area.
Section: 3.8 [basic.life] Status: New Submitter: Lawrence Crowl Opened: 2014-01-20 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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See http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2014/n3899.html.
Section: 8.4.2 [dcl.fct.def.default] Status: Open Submitter: Oleg Smolsky Opened: 2014-02-19 Last modified: 2014-06-30
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Discussion:
See http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2014/n3950.html.
Discussed in Rapperswil 2014.
Straw polls:
Proposal + the ability to default as global
SF: 10 F: 9 N: 2 A: 1 SA: 0
Proposal + the ability to default as global + the generation of negated operators
SF: 5 F: 9 N: 3 A: 1 SA: 2
Terse syntaxes only
SF: 7 F: 2 N: 4 A: 8 SA: 1
Terse syntaxes in addition
SF: 6 F: 6 N: 5 A: 4 SA: 1
Library solution
SF: 0 F: 0 N: 1 A: 12 SA: 7
Mutable members are not special (participate in the comparisons)
SF: 2 F: 6 N: 2 A: 5 SA: 6
Mutable members make defaulting ill-formed
SF: 3 F: 7 N: 6 A: 3 SA: 1
Mutable members do not participate in generated comparisons
SF: 7 F: 3 N: 0 A: 7 SA: 4
Proposal + the ability to default as global + mutables ill-formed
SF: 12 F: 7 N: 0 A: 1 SA: 2
The guidance of the vote is not very clear, but what seems clear is that EWG more or less encouraged the paper author to come up with a revised proposal.
Wording available:
The paper contains the proposed wording.Section: 4 [conv] Status: Open Submitter: Richard Smith Opened: 2014-02-15 Last modified: 2014-06-30
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Discussion:
With core issue 393, we're allowing function parameters to have type 'T (*)[]' or 'T (&)[]'. This has always been allowed for variables, and is useful in practice:
// guaranteed to be passed an actual array, not just a pointer, but the array can be of any size. void f(int n, int (&a)[]) { ... do stuff with first n elements of a ... } extern int arr[]; void g() { f(100, arr); } void h(int *p) { f(100, p); } // error, not an array! // elsewhere int arr[100]; // ok, no problem void i() { f(100, arr); } // error!
Note that if you actually know the bound of 'arr', you *cannot* pass it to f, because you can't pass 'int [100]' glvalues to a 'int (&)[]' parameter.
So, I'd like EWG to consider this extension:
We should allow "array of N T" glvalues to convert to "array of unknown bound of T", and likewise we should allow "cv pointer to array of N T" prvalues to convert to "cv pointer to array of unknown bound of T" prvalues.
Discussed in Rapperswil 2014. EWG wishes to encourage Smith to write a paper for EWG review, EWG expects to send it forwards to CWG without much ado.
Section: 2.14.3 [lex.ccon] Status: Ready Submitter: Richard Smith Opened: 2014-04-14 Last modified: 2014-06-30
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Discussion:
The discussion thread started at [c++std-ext-14798].
We have five encoding-prefixes for string-literals (none, L, u8, u, U) but only four for character literals -- the missing one is u8 for character literals.
This matters for implementations where the narrow execution character set is not ASCII. In such a case, u8 character literals would provide an ideal way to write character literals with guaranteed ASCII encoding (the single-code-unit u8 encodings are exactly ASCII), but... we don't provide them. Instead, the best one can do is something like this:
char x_ascii = { u'x' };... where we'll get a narrowing error if the codepoint doesn't fit in a 'char'. (Note that this is not quite the same as u8'x', which would give us an error if the codepoint was not representable as a single code unit in UTF-8.)
Is there a good reason for omitting this (useful and natural) functionality?
Discussed in Rapperswil 2014. EWG considers this to be an improvement, and encourages the author to take a proposal with wording to CWG. It's expected that Smith can do so without a separate EWG review.
Section: 12.2 [class.temporary] Status: Open Submitter: Geoffrey Romer Opened: 2014-05-31 Last modified: 2014-06-30
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Discussion:
The discussion thread started at [c++std-core-25298]
The core issues are CWG 900 and CWG 1498
Romer wrote:
The current resolutions of CWG 900 and 1498 don't seem right to me. The NAD rationale for CWG 900 appears to be saying that there is no problem, because the lifetime of _expression_ is extended by being bound to a reference. However, that applies only to the value of _expression_ itself; the lifetimes of any proper sub-expressions of _expression_ are not so extended. CWG 900 may be a little ambiguous about which temporaries it's referring to, but CWG 1498 is not; it's quite explicitly concerned with sub-expression temporaries, so the rationale for CWG 900 definitely does not apply.
To make this concrete, consider the following example, taken from https://svn.boost.org/trac/boost/ticket/7630:
std::vector<int> vec;
for (int val : vec | boost::adaptors::reversed
| boost::adaptors::uniqued) {
// Do stuff with val
}
The behavior of this code is undefined, because the temporary returned by the subexpression (vec | boost::adaptors::reversed) is destroyed before the loop body is entered, leaving __range's referent holding a dangling reference to it. The adaptors can mostly fix the issue by overloading on rvalue references, but at the cost of a substantial increase in code complexity.
Smith suggested handling this as an EWG issue.
Discussed in Rapperswil 2014. EWG wants a solution, and welcomes a paper tackling the issue. Vandevoorde raised concerns introducing any new lifetime models. Stroustrup pointed out that the end-of-full-expression rule came about to reduce memory footprint compared to the end-of-block rule, and is good for RAII uses. Is it possible to solve the issue by just modifying the specification of a range-for loop?
Section: 2.2 [lex.phases] Status: Ready Submitter: Richard Smith Opened: 2014-05-06 Last modified: 2014-06-30
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Discussion:
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2014/n3981.html
Wording available:
The paper contains the proposed wording.
Discussed in Rapperswil 2014. IBM continues to oppose.
Straw poll:
SF 9, WF 6, N 6, WA 3, SA 2.
Another poll, no neutral option:
SF 10, WF 9, WA 3, SA 3.
Deprecate/Remove/Status Quo, three-way poll:
5/16/6. Removal is still by far the strongest.
The proposal goes forward to CWG. CWG has already reviewed it and designated it ready for voting in Urbana.
Section: 9.6 [class.bit] Status: Open Submitter: S. Davalle, D. Gutson, A. Bustamante Opened: 2014-05-06 Last modified: 2014-07-02
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Discussion:
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2014/n3986.pdf
Wording available:
The paper contains the proposed wording.
Discussed in Rapperswil 2014. Not polled yet.
Garcia thought attributes should be explored as a solution rather than using a bitfield of negative width. Stroustrup asked why the facility is per-field rather than per-class. Gutson explained that he doesn't always want pack whole structures, and Stroustrup and Tomazos pointed out that splitting a larger class into smaller ones should solve the problem.
Vandevoorde pointed out implementation issues and asked what happens if a target architecture doesn't support the resulting padding (or the lack of it). It was suggested that the current standard may allow implementations to diagnose such cases anyway.
Naumann made the point that he thinks code should be portable but that object layout cannot be specified in such a strict manner due to architecture differences. Smolsky asked whether there are plans to impose endianness requirements on the representation of built-in types, and voiced concern about a performance impact.
Wong expressed doubt whether a standard solution is necessary, since every vendor has a solution. Vandevoorde replied that that sounds like a good reason to provide a standard solution.
Bos asked why there needs to be this support in classes rather than manipulating bits with a function. Dennett pointed out that this proposal turns things that aren't bitfields into bitfield-like things, because what looks like an int cannot be treated as an int.
Vandevoorde pointed out that alignas is almost a solution, but it doesn't apply to bitfields, and suggested using arrays instead of plain ints for the data that needs to be packed. Stroustrup recommended doing a survey of existing practice.
Section: 3.9.2 [basic.compound] Status: Open Submitter: J. Snyder, R. Smith Opened: 2014-05-23 Last modified: 2014-06-30
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http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2014/n4025.pdf
Discussed in Rapperswil 2014, with a fairly long discussion that didn't yield very concrete conclusions.
Straw polls:
Array of runtime bounds:
SF: 2 F: 2 N: 6 A: 11 SA: 2
Objects of dynamic size:
SF: 1 F: 7 N: 7 A: 6 SA: 2
Magic allocation outside of a type:
SF: 0 F: 11 N: 9 A: 1 SA: 0
Nothing:
SF: 2 F: 10 N: 6 A: 4 SA: 0
The group found it difficult to interpret the results, and where to go from here.
Carruth pointed out that it doesn't seem we can agree on an evolution path to take, and perhaps that should be our message to the full committee, and if someone disagrees, they should come up with a better evolution path. Voutilainen pointed out that this is not the first time we have failed to find real consensus about dynamic arrays. Smith said having nothing is the status quo of the C++ standard, and ARBs are what the TS proposes, and there would be a possibility to keep ARBs in a TS without integrating them to the main standard.
Section: 3.3.6 [basic.scope.namespace] Status: Open Submitter: Robert Kawulak Opened: 2014-05-23 Last modified: 2014-06-30
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http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2014/n4026.html
Discussed in Rapperswil 2014.
Straw poll, the full facility (JUST the basic syntactic sugar, no attributes, no aliases, no inline):
SF: 11 F: 5 N: 3 A: 0 SA: 0
The guidance is to provide only the basic syntactic sugar, no attributes, no aliases. Initial wording is necessary before this can proceed to Core. It is expected that EWG will review a revised paper before CWG will review the wording.
Section: 3.5 [basic.link] Status: Open Submitter: Herb Sutter Opened: 2014-05-23 Last modified: 2014-06-30
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http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2014/n4028.pdf
Discussed in Rapperswil 2014
Straw poll: should we encourage Sutter to go ahead:
SF 10 F 8 N 3 A 3 SA 3
Sutter asked the reason for the votes against, Gregor expressed doubt on whether the approach is feasible with regards to the amount of work, Carruth expressed doubt on having two slightly different standard libraries.
Stra poll: language ABI:
SF 12 F 14 N 0 A 1 SA 0
Wong said something like this would be ideal for a Study Group. Wong and Sutter expressed interest in continuing to work on the idea.
Section: 23.3 [sequences] Status: New Submitter: Lawrence Crowl Opened: 2014-05-22 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2014/n4043.html
Section: 15 [except] Status: New Submitter: D. Gutson, A. Bustamante, P. Oliva, M. Diaz Opened: 2014-05-27 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2014/n4049.pdf
Section: 23.3 [sequences] Status: New Submitter: Lawrence Crowl Opened: 2014-05-26 Last modified: 2014-06-13
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http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2014/n4050.html
Section: 14.1 [temp.param] Status: Ready Submitter: Richard Smith Opened: 2014-05-26 Last modified: 2014-06-30
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http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2014/n4051.html
Discussed in Rapperswil 2014, approved by acclamation, ready to go to CWG. CWG already reviewed it and designated it ready for voting in Urbana.